Unknown Logicz

[TurkeySandwich]

I have found some amazing things hidden in the Gruntz game!

1. Extra King

Logic:	Warlord
Image:	WAPWORLDONLY_TRIGGER
Score:	Color of King

2. Easier Timebombz

Logic:	TimeBomb
Image:	WAPWORLDONLY_TRIGGER or GAME_TIMEBOMB

3. Haven't figured out yet...

Logic:	TileTriggerTransition
Logic:	Boomerang

More Soon.

[TurkeySandwich]

I have more logics I highly doubt will ever have a purpose. They may only have done anything in beta testing or would've been explained in later versionz.

Logic:	TileExclusiveTriggerSwitch(Logic)
	DoNothing

Something that works is FrontCandy and FrontCandyAni! Everybody knows how regular EyeCandyz work, so no more explanationz are needed. They are exactly the same as far as I know.

[Gamer]

They also may be used by the game internally.

Also keep in mind the Gruntz Engine for things like this shares itself with other games, so there may be logics in this game that have a meaning in other games. For example"DoNothing" was the EyeCandy equivalent in Claw.

[TurkeySandwich]

Actually, the Warlord Logic could be used as an inspiration for future custom levelz. Imagine the possibilities.

[Mandew]

What Boomerang logic doez?

[BattlezM]

For me all the TileTriggerTransition logic does is act just like an eyecandy. Do you have any clue what it might do TurkeySandwich?

[Mandew]

Well, BattlezM, you could use a LOT of logic as an EyeCandy. Take TileTrigger, for exemple... If you put TileTrigger on a Pyramid, and choose any other thing then "GAME_WAPWORLDONLY_TRIGGER", like "LEVEL_TREE1", you will see the selected image, and the pyramid would still work whit the associeted switch.

But there'z some logic that I wouldn't recommed at all to use any other Image then supposed, like
InGameIcon. There'z also logic that I suspect the Image to disappear when the logic has been used, like CoveredPowerup, for instance.

But the advantage of using Proper Image for logicz, is that you can reconnize everything in the level... that'z why there is 5 (or 6) WAPWORLDONLY imagez, because you can know what is a Switch logic in the level, when the switch is covered by a Rock, for exemple.

[TurkeySandwich]

As Gamer and I said, most of these are used internally in the game, probably automaticly generated for short periods of time. Warlord and Timebomb are the only working ones.

[Mandew]

gruntvsviking said:

Something that works is FrontCandy and FrontCandyAni! Everybody knows how regular EyeCandyz work, so no more explanationz are needed. They are exactly the same as far as I know.

I don't really think so. EyeCandiez take account of the Z-coord. That mean when a grunt Pass behind it, we will see it behind the EyeCandy... And if it pass in front, we will see him before the EyeCandy... Well, depending of the Z-coord. I think FrontCandy don't take account of the Z-Coord, and a Grunt will alwayz pass behind.

[Mandew]

Sorry for the Double post but I have to say that the TurkeySandwich'z Discovery about FrontCandiez is Quite an amazing one for me. It's useful when you want to do an collage of EyeCandiez, and you want some to be particulary in front.

[swietymiki]

What's interesting is how these logics were discovered in the first place. Some were apparently used in the Standard Levels, but the others...

Something useful could still be discovered, just that we don't know how to search.

[GooRoo]

May 4, 2018 5:18:35 GMT -8 swietymiki said:

What's interesting is how these logics were discovered in the first place. Some were apparently used in the Standard Levels, but the others...

Something useful could still be discovered, just that we don't know how to search.

It would have helped to have enough information to create Gruntz Level Editor Manual entries. Perhaps someone has the time to figure out how to enter these Logic Objects into a map and display their use in a sample WWD?