Checkpoint Turmoil

[GooRoo]

I apparently did thingz "the hard way" in that area, since I satisfied quite a few CheckPoint Switchez that were not intended to be satisfied at all! There is a way that all three gruntz can make it to the "race track", but since there is no way SpongeGun can beat the Rock that three gruntz beat using the SuperSpeed Powerupz, there is no sense in trying to move him into the next area. The Rolling Rock movez twice as fast as an ordinary grunt, so the unlucky fourth grunt would be squished before sixteen tilez (when it takez twenty-seven tilez to make it to safety). Anyway, Gauntletz and Boxing Glovez move around "the race track" to their CheckPoint Switchez, freeing the BrickLayer grunt ... and those three are definitely necessary to solve the next few sectionz. SpongeGun, on the other hand, is of no further use to the solution of the CL.

[oldone]

I think I get what Sheroan was saying about the boxing glove. As far as I can see, there is a fatal flaw in the level that was e-mailed. At the beginning when boxing glove is shot over to the area with the two sword guardz and the two boxing glove checkpoints, it is not possible to satisfy both checkpoints. I thought at first the one that ends up blocking you in was just a trap and that I should avoid it, but it must be satisfied if boxing glovez and gauntletz are to satisfy the two cp above this area. Now someone explain to me how that is possible if I am trapped on the first cp.

I went into cheat mode to finish the level, and found it to be very, very clever, and surprisingly easier than it looks (once you figure it out! And of course except for those horrible green and red pyramidz!). I would like to go back and do it again without cheating, but until the problem above is cleared up, I won't be able to.

Also, when I was done the statz showed that I only got one secret, but I know I got five. Where the sixth one is, only Battlez knows.

So...a little help here!

[BattlezM]

One secret is indicated by an obvious formation, although getting there may not be as obvious.

As for boxing glovez, it is possible to use the diagonal walk glitch combined with friendly fire to get him out of the CPz. Then spongez does a bonus range trick to get boxing glovez out of the arrowz.

[GooRoo]

Aug 13, 2009 15:27:54 GMT -8 oldone said:

I think I get what Sheroan was saying about the boxing glove. As far as I can see, there is a fatal flaw in the level that was e-mailed. At the beginning when boxing glove is shot over to the area with the two sword guardz and the two boxing glove checkpoints, it is not possible to satisfy both checkpoints. I thought at first the one that ends up blocking you in was just a trap and that I should avoid it, but it must be satisfied if boxing glovez and gauntletz are to satisfy the two cp above this area. Now someone explain to me how that is possible if I am trapped on the first cp.

What you refer to as the first (Boxing Glovez) CheckPoint is actually the second CheckPoint. Satisfy the one on the north, having eliminated the enemy Sword gruntz, then return to the southern CPS, standing on the (lowered) CheckPoint Pyramid east of the CPS. SpongeGun firez a sponge at the Hole northwest of the CPS, and Boxing Glovez stepz onto the CPS and immediately NW 'into' the Hole ... just as the sponge arrivez.

I went into cheat mode to finish the level, and found it to be very, very clever, and surprisingly easier than it looks (once you figure it out! And of course except for those horrible green and red pyramidz!). I would like to go back and do it again without cheating, but until the problem above is cleared up, I won't be able to.

Also, when I was done the statz showed that I only got one secret, but I know I got five. Where the sixth one is, only Battlez knows.

So...a little help here!

I have completed the CL several timez ... never to a "PERFECT!" score, so will undoubtedly be playing it again. I seem to SAVE and go through a mini-puzzle, acquiring the Coin(z) in the area ... and die a little later. I go back to the SAVE and play forward again ... bypassing one (or more) of the Coin(z), and then SAVE later. So I have actually gotten all 34 Coinz ... just not all in one play-through of the entire Custom Level.

[Sheroan]

My boxing glove already did its two checks points and this outside them,
but what I want to know is like leaving boxing globe that area,
since the shot of the sponge does not arrive until you shoot with an arrow.

[GooRoo]

Aug 14, 2009 6:04:53 GMT -8 Sheroan said:

My boxing glove already did its two checks points and this outside them,
but what I want to know is like leaving boxing globe that area,
since the shot of the sponge does not arrive until you shoot with an arrow.

The Boxing Glovez grunt (for whatever team) is a bit unusual, in that when he is hit, he sort of shrugz, taking a bit of time to recover. So this is a timing problem, where the sponge and the Boxing Glovez grunt arrive at the Arrow at the same time ... and Boxing Glovez is pushed into "the race track" as soon as possible after a Rolling Rock passez where the sponge pushez Boxing Glovez. So he has time to recover (and the solver, once again in control, can select a destination) and move to safety. When the Rolling Rock is about three tilez away from the 'landing spot' is a good time to shoot at the Arrow.

[Sheroan]

Goo Roo I already have both checks points of the boxing glove. but my sponge this in its area and the pyramid of that area has not lowered, for that reason I say to him that the shot of the sponge does not reach you shoot with an arrow,
I want to know if I must lower those pyramids and since it becomes so that the sponge happens to the area of the gauntelz and can help of boxing

[BattlezM]

Feb 12, 2008 19:49:06 GMT -8 BattlezM said:

Spongegun Trick:

Most gruntzerz know the "Friendly Fire" trick which has been used through levelz. There is a special way to get extra range on the spongegun for it.

Take the image of tilez below.





Spongegunz is standing at the crater tile, he can only fire at the spikez tile. There is also a grunt on the foundation tile. Spongegunz firez at the spikez tile. Just before the sponge getz there, task the other grunt to step on the hole you want to bypass (the center hole in this example). The grunt will be shot over the hole if you timed properly.

This workz because objectz in gruntz react viva collision boundariez, not tile boundariez. When the grunt is stepping on the hole, he passez slightly over the spikez tile the sponge landz upon. This causez the sponge to shove the grunt like it normally would, but the grunt is almost on the hole tile, and thus getz pushed even further.

This post right here is the entire key to getting boxing glovez out.
There is no way to directly target the arrow.

[Sheroan]

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no body wonderstand to me.

I already have both checks points of the boxing glove.The boxing already make the checks points, this part is ready.


but my sponge this in its area and the pyramid of that area has not lowered, for that reason I say to him that the shot of the sponge does not reach you shoot with an arrow,

I want to know if I must lower those pyramids and since it becomes so that the sponge happens to the area of the gauntelz and can help of boxing

[BattlezM]

Did you get the toy?

[Sheroan]

No,is that I want to know how I garet the toy

[mommabird]

I am at the start with spongz and bare-handed. After they pass the arrows theres no place to go cause some of the bridge tiles are down and all the others are still trapped??

[BattlezM]

For both Sheroan ad mommabird, the solution is friendly fire.

[Sheroan]

dirty-ro.net/Sheroan/CheckpointTurmoil.jpg

This is my positions

[Sheroan]

if I must send to the guantelez to check point in the area of the sponge, there there is no angle for a shot in diagonal

[GooRoo]

Aug 14, 2009 21:30:05 GMT -8 Sheroan said:

if I must send to the guantelez to check point in the area of the sponge, there there is no angle for a shot in diagonal

Sure there is ... grunt one tile north of the generic CheckPoint Switch and SpongeGun two tilez north of the other CPS ... and shoot at a Hole ... which grunt stepz into just as the sponge arrivez.

[Sheroan]

Aug 14, 2009 21:32:59 GMT -8 GooRoo said:

Aug 14, 2009 21:30:05 GMT -8 Sheroan said:

if I must send to the guantelez to check point in the area of the sponge, there there is no angle for a shot in diagonal

Sure there is ... grunt one tile north of the generic CheckPoint Switch and SpongeGun two tilez north of the other CPS ... and shoot at a Hole ... which grunt stepz into just as the sponge arrivez.

But My gruntz are out the area of sponje

[Rik]

Are the maker from this level, BattlezM planning to make a walkthrough

[GooRoo]

Aug 15, 2009 4:35:35 GMT -8 Rik said:

Are the maker from this level, BattlezM planning to make a walkthrough

I have about 50% of a walk-through done at this time. Depending on the other thingz that demand my time, I should have it completed in a few dayz. I would like BattlezM to provide me with his own Author: and About: HTML componentz, though ... my About: is very generic, and I have no idea what he wantz to reveal about himself ... and will not reveal anything I know without his approval.

[Rik]

Aug 15, 2009 6:16:21 GMT -8 GooRoo said:

Aug 15, 2009 4:35:35 GMT -8 Rik said:

Are the maker from this level, BattlezM planning to make a walkthrough

I have about 50% of a walk-through done at this time. Depending on the other thingz that demand my time, I should have it completed in a few dayz. I would like BattlezM to provide me with his own Author: and About: HTML componentz, though ... my About: is very generic, and I have no idea what he wantz to reveal about himself ... and will not reveal anything I know without his approval.[/quot

Oke thanks and take your time , we can wait