Run Cloudy, Run

[GooRoo]

Designer:		Zu
Level Set:	4HS/HS	Area 4 "High On Sweetz" Level number 13
Est. Completion:		11:59 or less (maybe exactly 12:00 is possible)
Est. Solve:		??:??
Date Released:		September 30, 2010
Status:		Released
Notes:		Difficulty=Hard+ (Zu's evaluation) ... timer 6:00 to start! Size=Medium (60 X 60) Density=Normal
		Forum's web host
		Not yet
Statz Page image Statz Page image		Forum's web host (Zu) Tomalla
Statz info.
Survivorz:		2
Deathz:		0
Toolz:		6 , etc.
Toyz:		9
Powerupz:		7
Coinz:		18
Secretz:		2
View The Map		2,238,867 bytez - Forum's web host

[Ginden]

Uh... It was hard. But I completed it!
My result
Czas - Time.
Ocaleni - Survivorz.
Starty - Deadz.
Narzę)zia: Toolz.
Zabawki - Toyz.
Dodatki: Powerupz.
Monety: Coinz.
Sekrety - Secretz.

[GooRoo]

If that Statz Page image had been anywhere close to a "PERFECT!" score, I would have distributed the Custom Level based solely upon your completion of the puzzle. But since so few of the Secretz were located, there is still the possibility of some fatal flaw, so it still requirez a verification effort.

I have a couple of hourz before my bed-time, so will attempt to play it tonight ... in hopez of being able to send it out to all of the Gruntz Fanz.

[GooRoo]

I only did slightly better than Zu, as far as finding thingz is concerned, but how I LOVE THIS GAME!

Well, I know what needz to be done ... but I could not do it tonight. Every time I failed at something, I cheated, in order to get to the next mini-puzzle. Even cheating mightily, I was unable to reach the SecretTeleporterTrigger for the Red Warp , so have not seen the area where the Coinz (most of them, at least) that I missed were located. (I could have cheated and reached the STT, but was more interested in getting the Warpstone piece to the King.) The Question Mark Switch is so thoroughly hidden that I would not have found it, had I not been attempting to escape from an enemy Grunt carrying a 'butter knife'. (Yet another one of my failurez.)

Everywhere I have been, cheating or legally, I found no fatal flawz (Brickz without logicz, and the like), so I am certain that I will be distributing this one tomorrow ... if I am able to do anything at all tomorrow. ("Fool! This very night your life will be taken from you, and your riches will go to someone else." I wake up each morning thankful that I woke up in the morning!)

[Zu]

Well, most of the hidden secretz are waiting for you behind EyeCandy, hidden so well that unless you'll search for them, you may never notice their presence. The Red Warp is another matter. His invisible button is hidden on a clearly visible tile, in a place that is not reachable until taking some action... you can find it if you'll check how thingz look before doing any action and after.

About the progress in the level, were you able to pass two hardest parts without cheating, namely: toggling bridgez and bomber's path? If not, I can provide little help about how you can solve it.

About the PERFECT, I was able to get him several timez. I can show the proof, but PERFECT statz image from CL's designer doesn't count, I guess.

One little suggestion: I think that we can safely type in Est. Completion "Less than 12 minutez", as it's the maximum time that you can get from initial timer and from stopwatchez.

[GooRoo]

Sept 29, 2010 2:15:33 GMT -8 Zu said:

Well, most of the hidden secretz are waiting for you behind EyeCandy, hidden so well that unless you'll search for them, you may never notice their presence. The Red Warp is another matter. His invisible button is hidden on a clearly visible tile, in a place that is not reachable until taking some action... you can find it if you'll check how thingz look before doing any action and after.

Having three enemy Gruntz standing in a corner was a pretty good clue ... I just did not 'cheat my way' there.

About the progress in the level, were you able to pass two hardest parts without cheating, namely: toggling bridgez and bomber's path? If not, I can provide little help about how you can solve it.

The hardest part (IMNSHO) was with the initial Grunt clearing the path for the Rolling Malted Milk Ball ... my Grunt kept stopping at the Yellow Toggle Switch ... and kept firing at the first enemy Grunt (when just one shot does the trick), keeping me from moving on to the second, third, fourth, fifth and sixth Gruntz . And such hesitationz were fatal (for me), since the Green Pyramidz took out the only legal meanz of clearing other pathz. The mini-puzzlez, themselvez, are difficult enough for the solver ... the timer is ... just mean! It is necessary to evaluate the terrain ahead, and the timer makez that a problem all its own. And with just one SAVE slot (if I had used it!), that meanz many restartz.

About the PERFECT, I was able to get him several timez. I can show the proof, but PERFECT statz image from CL's designer doesn't count, I guess.

Actually, the Statz Page image from the Designer is the best, most important one. It provez that it can be done ... and providez a goal to shoot for, for the solver. How better to pat one's self on the back, than to beat the Designer's own time! (But I also post the first solver's Statz Page image, when the Designer providez one.)

One little suggestion: I think that we can safely type in Est. Completion "Less than 12 minutez", as it's the maximum time that you can get from initial timer and from stopwatchez.

I will certainly do that! (And I will still try once more before sending it out today ... when I return from my breakfast meeting.)

[Zu]

Sept 29, 2010 5:42:59 GMT -8 GooRoo said:

The hardest part (IMNSHO) was with the initial Grunt clearing the path for the Rolling Malted Milk Ball ... my Grunt kept stopping at the Yellow Toggle Switch ... and kept firing at the first enemy Grunt (when just one shot does the trick)

The best way to avoid this problem is to:
1. Call the Welder Grunt to move to the tile that's close enough to the enemy grunt;
2. Call Welder Grunt to attack enemy grunt;
3. When Welder Grunt actually shootz the first fireball (i.e. image of the ball turns visible), immediately call him to move somewhere else, possibly by clicking the tile multiple timez in a row;
4. Proceed in the same way with other enemy gruntz. At the end of the road, I suggest to just call Welder Grunt to move to the tile right above/below him, so he can stop his attack and remain in the range of next enemy grunt.

Also, I suggest to attack enemy gruntz in the same sequence as the rolling ball goes through the pyramidz.

The mini-puzzlez, themselvez, are difficult enough for the solver ... the timer is ... just mean! It is necessary to evaluate the terrain ahead, and the timer makez that a problem all its own. And with just one SAVE slot (if I had used it!), that meanz many restartz.

Well, the timer indeed requirez you to save, examine the problem ahead, and then load and try to solve it. After all, this CL is intended to be hard... even frustrating at timez, although it's not THAT hard as KaraokeBar, as I guess.

Actually, the Statz Page image from the Designer is the best, most important one. It provez that it can be done ... and providez a goal to shoot for, for the solver. How better to pat one's self on the back, than to beat the Designer's own time! (But I also post the first solver's Statz Page image, when the Designer providez one.)

Ah! Well, good to know. In this case, Gruntzerz will have a hard time to beat my time, as it requirez to be as fast as possible and know perfectly where thingz are and what is the quickest way to solve the puzzlez.

[GooRoo]

I still have not completed this one ... but I finally managed to get to the Springz with the Rolling Malted Milk Ball making it to the Black One-Time Switch . I have a SAVE at that point, and probably would need a video to get me through the area with the tool intact! So I am giving up on this one for a while, and sending it out for the "younger set" to tackle.

Check your e-mail in-boxez, Gruntz Fanz ... another CL is heading your way! It is in the electronic airwavez!

[Zu]

I have a SAVE at that point, and probably would need a video to get me through the area with the tool intact!

You mean the area with moving spikez? That's rather simple, but needs a good timing - the spikez are moving in delayz allowing you to perform one long jump (over the spikez) and one simple jump (just to the next tile). When your grunt has performed the long jump, then started moving to the next tile and is already in mid air to step on the spikez, they will change themselves just in this moment, leaving the springz unharmed. If it happens that you cannot perform long jump at the moment or simply don't want to risk, then you can just keep moving one tile per spikez' change. You can learn their delayz by watching the animation of your grunt. Once he steps on the clear tile and waits for spikez to change, watch his movement as he's moving up and down on the spring - when he reaches the top and returns to the default height, call him to move to the next tile. It might be a bit problematic at first, but you should finally get how to do it.

And thank you for releasing my CL, of course.

PS: I hope you haven't forgot about this topic?

[BattlezM]

Whew, probably the most original CL I've seen in a long time. This one had some new trickz up it's sleevez, certainly something I enjoy. Having the bomber grunt play a tag along game with your grunt was the best puzzle.

I got a minute better than the designer'z time, but missed both secretz.

[Tomalla]

Here's my first PERFECT run:

i340.photobucket.com/albums/o324/tomalla5120x/runcloudyrun.jpg

13 seconds better xD

Status: challenge completed.

The timer itself isn't that annoying, as the secrets are. It was darn hard to find all of the secrets. I'll see whether I can beat my own time ... since there was quite a few seconds that could be spared ... Cheers

[Zu]

Oct 2, 2010 1:46:32 GMT -8 Tomalla said:

Here's my first PERFECT run:

i340.photobucket.com/albums/o324/tomalla5120x/runcloudyrun.jpg

13 seconds better xD

Status: challenge completed.

The timer itself isn't that annoying, as the secrets are. It was darn hard to find all of the secrets. I'll see whether I can beat my own time ... since there was quite a few seconds that could be spared ... Cheers

Whoa! You're a really serious speedrunner! Personally, I've never been able to get into less than 10:23...

Well then, I'm glad that you* like my CL. Just a question, what do you think about the difficulty, i.e. in which category you could place this CL?

* "You" in plural

[Zu]

Does no one aside four people (GooRoo, Tomalla, BattlezM and Ginden) have tried this level?

[GooRoo]

Oct 27, 2010 17:54:53 GMT -8 Zu said:

Does no one aside four people (GooRoo, Tomalla, BattlezM and Ginden) have tried this level?

Some Gruntzerz just fight their way through a puzzle without ever seeking help. Otherz simply say "I'm not going to be the first ... let someone else figure out the hard partz" ... and read the posted solutionz in order to solve it. And never post, themselvez.

[twiggy]

Wow! What a tough level. I finished, but missed a lot of coinz. I went back and saw how to get the coinz near the cookie bridge, but don't know about the 4 at the top. Don't know where the secret is?? Found out from previous posts how to find the red warp to the "W", but keep running out of time. Other than that, I'm having fun with it, but sure would like to find that secret to those 4 coinz??

[GooRoo]

Feb 21, 2011 18:18:49 GMT -8 twiggy said:

Wow! What a tough level. I finished, but missed a lot of coinz. I went back and saw how to get the coinz near the cookie bridge, but don't know about the 4 at the top. Don't know where the secret is?? Found out from previous posts how to find the red warp to the "W", but keep running out of time. Other than that, I'm having fun with it, but sure would like to find that secret to those 4 coinz??

It's a (well hidden) Secret ... Switch, that is. It's really sweet, the way it is obscured. Do you think you cane find it?

[twiggy]

Thanks GooRoo, I finally got the PERFECT!! Thank you Zu for the very challenging level. I had to keep doing different areas over and over to try to get my time better. It felt like I was qualifying for a track event and I was even out of breath at timez. What a workout!!

[Zu]

Thank you Zu for the very challenging level.

Glad you liked it.

But, if you consider this one to be very challenging, then I suppose you don't want to check the "He Cannot Escape!"...

[rohit]

I finished the level; found the W but am missing 4 coins which are in the center near the disappearing bridge; there is a blue wrap at the end of the coins. How do i get them?

[GooRoo]

Mar 21, 2011 2:29:31 GMT -8 rohit said:

I finished the level; found the W but am missing 4 coins which are in the center near the disappearing bridge; there is a blue wrap at the end of the coins. How do i get them?

Check out my reply on February 21^st for the clue to those Coinz.