Happy Birthday! V2

[Deleted]

I recomend you to make the way which is goes to WARP letters more hard to find.Making them a part to continue
the level is not look good to me.

[Blaze The Movie Fan]

Aug 4, 2015 15:00:17 GMT -8 @zazor5000 said:

I recomend you to make the way which is goes to WARP letters more hard to find.Making them a part to continue
the level is not look good to me.

Don't worry I will.

Also I will edit this level this Saturday and make it public for everyone else to do the same.

I have my own website server so I can accomplish that.

[Blaze The Movie Fan]

I edited the video and anyone is welcome to edit it, link to it is in the first post.

Anyway here are the changes I made:

-All planes were removed, none of them were necessary all they did was make the level much harder than it has to be.
-The wander's grunt was replaced by a hit and runner with sponge gun.
-All the WARP letters are now all around the level, they are no longer in one spot of the level.
-The invincibility powerup was removed as it made it unfairly easy.
-The shield enemies now actually attack you instead of attacking themselves, and they were also far too many so I removed many of them.

There are more minor edits, but these are the main changes I made. You can edit it further, not only do I welcome it I encourage it.

[Blaze The Movie Fan]

It's been a couple of days and still no edit, that's a shame. I guess I am becoming irrelevant in this community since I haven't played the game Gruntz for so long outside my own level and that one let's play I made.

I'll try attaching the level. If no one else will edit the video before August 21st, that's the day I'll be releasing the level, but one edit from someone else will make the level be released in September 15th like originally planned. And sadly I have to remove "the rest of the community" out of the name of the publisher since that won't be the case anymore if no one else edits.

[GooRoo]

Aug 13, 2015 16:33:54 GMT -8 Blaze The Movie Fan said:

It's been a couple of days and still no edit, that's a shame. I guess I am becoming irrelevant in this community since I haven't played the game Gruntz for so long outside my own level and that one let's play I made.

I'll try attaching the level. If no one else will edit the video before August 21st, that's the day I'll be releasing the level, but one edit from someone else will make the level be released in September 15th like originally planned. And sadly I have to remove "the rest of the community" out of the name of the publisher since that won't be the case anymore if no one else edits.

There is something wrong with your attachment ... it is being treated as an image, instead of a Wap World Document. Please make it a link, rather than an attachment, and perhaps someone (like me) can actually do something with it.

[Blaze The Movie Fan]

Aug 14, 2015 6:22:59 GMT -8 GooRoo said:

Aug 13, 2015 16:33:54 GMT -8 Blaze The Movie Fan said:

It's been a couple of days and still no edit, that's a shame. I guess I am becoming irrelevant in this community since I haven't played the game Gruntz for so long outside my own level and that one let's play I made.

I'll try attaching the level. If no one else will edit the video before August 21st, that's the day I'll be releasing the level, but one edit from someone else will make the level be released in September 15th like originally planned. And sadly I have to remove "the rest of the community" out of the name of the publisher since that won't be the case anymore if no one else edits.

There is something wrong with your attachment ... it is being treated as an image, instead of a Wap World Document. Please make it a link, rather than an attachment, and perhaps someone (like me) can actually do something with it.

Here is a link:

pokeblaze.hostei.com/Happybirthdayedited.WWD

Hope it works.

[GooRoo]

Aug 14, 2015 7:52:45 GMT -8 Blaze The Movie Fan said:

Here is a link:

pokeblaze.hostei.com/Happybirthdayedited.WWD

Hope it works.

That works ... download successful!

[Wedrikul]

I can open it, for me it works 
But I don't like square cloudz, low amount of EyeCandiez, BehindCandiez etc.
Blank areaz I don't like too, but the holes through the clouds doesn't matter.
And I prefered not to place more game-objectz on same tile (like grunt + weapon) 
SecretTeleporterTrigger entrance position hidden? I think it doesn't work for first time 
That was some criticism.

Now the good ones - shield gruntz are very funny, I like the idea 
And I got the perfect! )After I looked on the SecretTeleporterTrigger... 

[Blaze The Movie Fan]

Aug 14, 2015 8:27:59 GMT -8 Wedrikul said:

I can open it, for me it works 
But I don't like square cloudz, low amount of EyeCandiez, BehindCandiez etc.
Blank areaz I don't like too, but the holes through the clouds doesn't matter.
And I prefered not to place more game-objectz on same tile (like grunt + weapon) 
SecretTeleporterTrigger entrance position hidden? I think it doesn't work for first time 
That was some criticism.

Now the good ones - shield gruntz are very funny, I like the idea 
And I got the perfect! )After I looked on the SecretTeleporterTrigger... 

But keep in mind that I was a kid when I made the original level, and about the only way to make it great is start again on the production from the start.

I did best I could to fix it, thank you for downloading the level, my plan on releasing it on September 15th still stands.

[GooRoo]

I did a bit of trimming by moving the 13 Coinz and the Warp Letter, and changed where the Red Warp opened so that it was easier to find. My results and revised map are in your e-mail inbox, Blaze.

[Blaze The Movie Fan]

Alright, this version looks much better, but I have to ask why did you change the unbreakable bricks in one part of the level? Was that really necessary? I don't see how it changes anything considering the fact that you don't get the time bomb until after you're out of that area.


But other than that it looks great.

[Zu]

I took the time today to try remaking the level from scratch, condensing everything to a much smaller area and helping the level's puzzles become more "realized".

This version can be found here: dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/109892108/HappyBirthdayRemake01.zip

Now, since my changes are likely going to raise quite a few questions, I'll try to answer them to the best of my abilities:

- The first grunt's first area was redesigned so that getting the toy requires a little bit of effort, and so that getting the Warp letter isn't as straightforward as pressing the (rather clearly visible) button and marching in to take a single hit from the sword grunt.

- The first grunt's second area was redesigned to make the Toyer challenge a little more interesting.

- The second grunt's first area was heavily redesigned so that, again, the challenge doesn't boil down to marching in and taking a hit.

- The second grunt's second area was redesigned so that the checkpoint switchez aren't as confusing and so that each tool has some use before it's discarded.

- The second grunt's third area was redesigned so that it doesn't take up as much space.

- The third grunt's first area was moved and changed a little so that it doesn't have to float in the middle of a lot of nothing.

- The third grunt's second area was redesigned to take up less space and so that the enemies can be dispatched a little more quickly.

Blaze is free to edit this version as he pleases, if he finds something he doesn't like.

[Wedrikul]

It looks better and it's more challenging. 
And I got PERFECT! 

[Blaze The Movie Fan]

Thank you I will analyze the level on Saturday a week from now.

I'm going a bit off topic here, but I think the 3-D Lava level needs to be remade as well.

[Blaze The Movie Fan]

I know I said Sunday but I'm reviewing it on Saturday, so I apologize for taking so long.

Anyway, I'm gonna have to say this version by Zu is a lot better than the original version. No annoying planes, no invincibility powerup that lasts for eternity, and best of all, the level doesn't have too much empty space.

Now I'm gonna talk about the things that were added.

• The way you have to kill two sponge grunts instead of one was a neat change.
• Now dealing with the toyer is a real challenege.
• I love how you have to trick that shovel grunt to dig the sword grunt into a hole, that's not easy to figure out in fact it took me a few minutes to figure it out. Great job.
• Replacing the shield grunts with the swords grunts was a smart move, and best of all I don't have to kill all of them, I just have to make sure they aren't in my way. Which means the wings have more usage than just flight.
• Getting the go-kart was made harder, now you have to be careful or else these swords grunts will kill you. That's a great challenge.

But there is one issue that I have with this improved version that I have to point out. The welder's kit is next to uselss. You have to use the time bomb to take care of that swords grunt who is holding the switch. On Wednesday if no one else does, I will try changing the level so there is more use for the Welder's Kit than just to go to a checkpoint. It's not gonna be a simple task, but I'll try. If there are any other issues that need to be fixed, feel free to do it yourselves, this is a level the rest of the community is allowed to edit after all. The download file for the whole level is in the first post.

[Zu]

I'm glad that you enjoyed most of my changes.

While timing the shovel grunt to remove the ground from under the sword grunt's feet is indeed a valid solution, the idea was that by digging the hole, the shovel grunt forces the sword grunt to walk around the hole in order to continue walking in circle... which exposes him to the rolling ball that you can unleash.

Regarding the issue you found: the idea was that you must use the welder's kit to eliminate the purple sword grunt. The fact that you can do that with a timebomb was an oversight of mine. I prepared a version that prevents this unintended solution: dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/109892108/HappyBirthdayRemake02.zip If you feel my approach is insufficient, you can alter it however you see fit.

[Blaze The Movie Fan]

I updated the level, thanks for your input.

And I'm not gonna check it right now as I have a lot on my mind.

[Blaze The Movie Fan]

I previewed this new version now and yes it is an improvement.

However I noticed an issue that I didn't notice before. What's the point of having these kegs of zap cola near that thief? As soon as you kill him you're done using these guys. It doesn't matter if he steals the shovel or gauntlets, you can easily kill him without having either grunt killed. So these kegs of zap cola there are completely pointless. Especially since you do get a keg of zap cola before fighting him.

Oh and I don't care for the secrets so I didn't look for them. But I would be thankful if someone who does care about secrets would test them out, other than Zu of course, thank you.

[Zu]

I included them mostly because they were there in the original, but I guess they could be removed.

Wedrikul did get a Perfect score on the level, so I guess the secrets work as they should.

[Deleted]

I start to edit the level.Im changing locations of secrets and moved fort to another place.