Stage 4 - With Four Gruntz, You Can Take On

[GooRoo]

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[Gruntnutz]

Hi!! New Gruntz here! I need help please! I am on level 4 of Honey i shrunk the gruntz. Every time I get to the point where Is hould have four gruntz, I only have three!! What am I doing wrong?

[GooRoo]

In this Level, you never want to pass by a Goo Puddle . Some of them can be rather difficult to see, Blue on Blue Tilez and all. There is an area where you have to go through several Wormholez, landing on different islandz with a Goo Puddle on it. Suck every one up, and read that note that says not to go through the Blue Wormhole unless you have x Gruntz baked (or material for them in the Goo Well). Look over the areaz you have already passed, to see if there are any Goo Puddlez you missed. If so, you need to go back and get them if you can, re-start from a SAVE before the missed Goo Puddlez if you can't go back fr them.

I just thought of something; are you playing CD Version 1.0? No, I think you said you had the RealOneArcade Version, which is 1.10 ... that one is fine. There was a bug, where a Goo Puddle was within a group of pyramidz, and unreachable. That, and other little things were fixed in the Version 1.01 patch to the CD Gruntz game.

Have you passed by the Sword Grunt on the bridge across the Hot Griddle? It would help to know what the map looks like, where you are stuck.

[Gruntnutz]

Yea, I downloaded the game from Real Arcade. I went through the entire maze again, and still end up with only three gruntz, and I need four. I passed the sword gruntz and I really can't see any puddles to suck up with the straw. Most of the maze so far is on yellow floors, with the exception of going over the frying pan or whatever it is. I'm totally befuddled with this stage.

[GooRoo]

The Sword Grunt you are referring to, is that the one to the West of the four Orange Switchez? You have not gone down the path toward the southwest yet? There are Goo Puddlez in the path, another on the little island, and more to come when you make it past the dual Rolling Olivez to the Blue Wormhole. You need to get past a Grunt standing on an island toward the end of the bridge across the hot griddle, and will find another couple of Goo Puddlez on the Blue Tilez there.

I almost need a screenshot of where you are, when you are short a Grunt. There really are enough Goo Puddlez, or enemy Gruntz that you can turn into Goo to make four new Gruntz.

I have not read Paul's walkthrough on HIStg4, but I think he probably listed every Goo Puddle in sequence for the solver to suck up. I just read the walkthrough, and I only read about enough Goo for three Gruntz to be baked. I guess the only thing I can do is re=play the level to see where the walkthrough has left something out.

[Gruntnutz]

I DID IT!! I figured out where the other puzzle was. Now I'm on the next Stage. Thanks!!

[HomsickTxn]

I can't seem to get past the part where you have to use the 2 spongegunz gruntz to shoot the shield grunt past the rolling olives. I tried following the directions for assigning a # to the spongegunz gruntz, but my #2 grunt always tells me he can't do it -- then when it's too late, he finally shoots his gun. So the shield grunt usually moves to the right place, but gets squished first. Anyone have any ideas on why my #2 grunt won't shoot until it's too late?

[GooRoo]

Use the "T" method to select the target Tile you aim for ... where the Shield Grunt will be after it is hit by the first Sponge. This sub-puzzle, and the sub-puzzle to get the "R" in Gruntz In Space - Stage 3 are the most difficult timing puzzlez in all of the Gruntz Standard Levelz ... perhaps in all known (to me) Gruntz Levelz!

[FriedGruntzaholic]

HomsickTxn said:

I can't seem to get past the part where you have to use the 2 spongegunz gruntz to shoot the shield grunt past the rolling olives. I tried following the directions for assigning a # to the spongegunz gruntz, but my #2 grunt always tells me he can't do it -- then when it's too late, he finally shoots his gun. So the shield grunt usually moves to the right place, but gets squished first. Anyone have any ideas on why my #2 grunt won't shoot until it's too late?

This is one of the tougher puzzles to do. It's not that hard to solve, but tough to do due to the tight timing and amount of coordination required. When you switch to spongegun #2, use the CTRL-T method of aiming and firing. After hitting the number key you assigned your second spongegun to, press CTRL-T to bring up the aiming line. Place your cursor on the square you want to shoot at (regardless of whether there's a grunt there or not) then click with your mouse to fire. If you time it right, the sponge will arrive at the same time as the shield grunt, but just before the olive, knocking the shield to safety.

[HomsickTxn]

GooRoo and FriedGruntzaholic: Thanks for the tips on getting my spongegunz gruntz to shoot the shield grunt at the right time. I haven't gotten past this part yet, but I'll keep trying your suggestions, and maybe I'll eventually make it. Although, as many times as I've tried it, I'm beginning to wonder if I'm just not fast enough ...

[FriedGruntzaholic]

Don't get discouraged! I'm sure it took most of us numerous tries before we pulled it off. As a matter of fact, I'll be willing to bet that most of us were surprised when we did manage to shoot that shield past the olive. Like I said, this puzzle was one the tougher one's to do. So keep at it.

[HomsickTxn]

I must still be doing something wrong. Even with the Ctrl T targeting, my #2 spongegunz grunt simply will NOT shoot his gun until the shield grunt is already on the spot I'm targeting -- and by then it's too late, so the shield grunt always gets squished.

[GooRoo]

Are you working on the first Olive path crossing, or the second one? Do you have both of your SpongeGun Gruntz properly positioned?

Remember, the Sponge takes 1.5 secondz to travel from gun to destination, so one thing you must do is anticipate when the Olive is going to arrive at the Tile you are trying to move that Shield Grunt onto, and shoot so that the Sponge arrives just after the Olive crosses that Tile. Don't wait to target and shoot at the Tile in the Olive's path ... shoot #1, select #2 and shoot #2 as quickly as you can. Once you are successful ... SAVE. There is nothing about Gruntz that is so aggravating as to get through a tricky part, only to do something wrong in the very next moment ... without having SAVEd. (I had a full head of hair when Mary Lou gave me the Gruntz game ... I am now partly bald. )

[HomsickTxn]

I'm working on the 2nd olive crossing. I made it thru the 1st one, but can't seem to get thru the 2nd one. I guess I'm just going to have to keep trying -- the best I've done so far is get the shield grunt to the right spot, but only after he got squished!

[FriedGruntzaholic]

HomsickTxn said:

I'm working on the 2nd olive crossing. I made it thru the 1st one, but can't seem to get thru the 2nd one. I guess I'm just going to have to keep trying -- the best I've done so far is get the shield grunt to the right spot, but only after he got squished!

Are you trying to cross the olive rolling in the square track, or the olive that is rolling vertically between the arrowz?

[HomsickTxn]

I'm trying to cross the olive in the square track. Right now, the shield grunt is in the middle of that square, and I can't get him out without him getting squished. No matter what I do, my #2 grunt just won't shoot until it's too late. Oh well, maybe someday I'll actually figure out what I'm doing wrong ...

[Bea]

Make sure that your gruntz are at full strength when you do the firing and always save once you have the shield gruntz in a safe position. Assign numbers to your gruntz so you can pick the second one more quickly - I found I had to keep my left hand poised over the number pad and the T Have you looked at Paul's picture of where to position your gruntz? Remember you will be firing at different squares. I found this the most difficult puzzle in the game.

[HomsickTxn]

I did try to position my gruntz like in Paul's walkthru, but I still can't seem to get the shield grunt out of the olive's path without getting him squished. It helps to know that other people thought this puzzle was difficult, too. I'm hoping that if I keep trying, I'll eventually get past it. But this is certainly the most difficult gruntz puzzle I've encountered so far ...

[GooRoo]

HomsickTxn said:

I did try to position my gruntz like in Paul's walkthru, but I still can't seem to get the shield grunt out of the olive's path without getting him squished. It helps to know that other people thought this puzzle was difficult, too. I'm hoping that if I keep trying, I'll eventually get past it. But this is certainly the most difficult gruntz puzzle I've encountered so far ...

I believe it is a "toss up" between HIStG4 and GIS3 (Warp letter R) for most difficult timing puzzlez in all of Gruntz. Both involve controlling two or more Gruntz in a very short amount of time. Both require good hand-eye coordination (and a bit of luck!) and perserverance.

Keep on truckin' ... you know it is possible (even though difficult), so don't give up!

[FriedGruntzaholic]

Timing is the key. If my memory serves, I did it by having my gruntz in the correct positions, then watching the olive. As it passed the third arrow before the tile that I needed to shoot the shield onto, I had spongegun #1 shoot at the shield. If my timing was correct, the sponge arrived to knock the shield onto the tile that the olive just passed. That gives me almost a whole "lap" to have spongegun #2 knock the shield grunt to the safe tile. But you can't dawdle. You can't wait to see if the first sponge knocks the shield to the correct tile. You just have to take it on faith that the shield will be in the right position for the second sponge. You need to concentrate on switching to spongegun #2, aiming, and firing. Again, use CTRL-T and make sure that when you fire, you left-click instead of right-clicking. If you right-click, spongegun will not fire until there is an enemy grunt occupying the tile you are aiming at and he will tell you, "No can do!" Using the CTRL-T method and left-clicking allows your spongegun to fire anywhere (except at a teammate) as long as he has full energy (blue bar).