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Post by Gaby on Oct 16, 2004 21:00:21 GMT -8
How did you manage to do that - all 10  WOW ... if only I could do that...the clubz casse me all around while I step on the BOT button... I am apparently too slow... |
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Post by GooRoo on Oct 17, 2004 7:37:15 GMT -8
I didn't do that ... I was just very fortunate in the way the enemy Gruntz moved around the area, attacking and being attacked. My only involvement in the process was to let a few of them out of their entrapment, and then run for safety behind some Green Pyramidz. When the 'action' ended, there were nine Goo Puddlez and one completely healthy Defender Sword Grunt to deal with. I had four bottlez of Zap Cola exposed, so attacked the Sword Grunt, and ran for a bottle of Zap Cola ... and repeated the process until that last Grunt quivered as a puddle of Goo, leaving my Gauntletz Grunt with full health. I went round and round the central area, carefully breaking Rockz while avoiding being hit by any Rockz.  I also avoided stepping on any Black One-Time Switchez, until everything was broken except the rock on the stairway leading to the central Rock-thrower. Then I released the Club Gruntz by starting from a point northwest of the BOTS controlling their Black Pyramidz, and clicking on a destination immediately to the east of the Blue Toggle Switch on the eastern border of the area. My Grunt thus avoided the emerging Club Gruntz, and I made a bee-line for the Green Toggle Switch in the southwest corner. I don't recall whether Gauntletz stepped on the BOTS releasing the Rock-thrower Gruntz, or the CLub Gruntz in hot pursuit of me activated it. No matter, the battle was joined, and some Grunt activated the BOTS lowering the Black Pyramidz enclosing the Sword Gruntz. (Back to paragraph one. ) |
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Post by WalkingBear on Oct 18, 2004 3:36:17 GMT -8
I thought I was very fortunate to end up with 8 goo puddles and only one sword grunt who had very low health to deal with.... Is this the correct order for gruntz passing through this area? : 1. gauntletz ( who initally has to battle here) 2. shovelz ( who digz up all the holez, revealing the beach ball, gunhatz, and spongegun) getz the spongegun and shootz all the purple gruntz onto the PS....then the boomergang grunt? 3. strawz (who suckz up all the goo puddlez, making 2 new gruntz) And then....? I also found that the red warp in the pyramid square leadz to the shovelz checkpoint on the outside...BUT even though he stepz on the secret switch...there are so many yellow boomerangz that he diez before he has a chance to go anywhere and he can't go anywhere because the bridge tilez are down.... I put the two new gruntz on the creation pad in the pyramid square so that they can stand on the PS in various combinationz.... I realize that shovelz has to go around the silver timed pyramidz to go through the blue warp on the right side...and when he stepz on the YTS, the haleluia chorus soundz but I don't see which area it triggerz....do you? Gaby is right, this is a gruntz worst nightmare........and a gruntzers worst nightmare too! |
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Post by GooRoo on Oct 18, 2004 10:23:51 GMT -8
I thought I was very fortunate to end up with 8 goo puddles and only one sword grunt who had very low health to deal with.... Is this the correct order for gruntz passing through this area? : 1. gauntletz ( who initally has to battle here) 2. shovelz ( who digz up all the holez, revealing the beach ball, gunhatz, and spongegun) getz the spongegun and shootz all the purple gruntz onto the PS....then the boomergang grunt? 3. strawz (who suckz up all the goo puddlez, making 2 new gruntz) And then....? So far, so good! You should have eliminated those enemy Boomerang Gruntz before activating the SecretTeleporterTrigger ... with your own Boomerang Grunt. Creating new Gruntz is good ... but give them a Tool to make them more useful. I really don't know where that "Hallelujah!" is coming from, as there is no SecretTeleporterTrigger logic associated with that Switch.  Perhapz it was associated with some earlier Tile somehow, and the sound was just delayed until you reached the Yellow Toggle Switch. There should be no Secret to deal with there, is all I can remember. The title of this Custom Level sayz it all ... when you add the wordz I put in parentheses in this thread!  Just think how proud you may feel when you complete the Level! Especially if you manage to complete it with a "PERFECT!" score! |
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Post by Gaby on Oct 18, 2004 14:31:22 GMT -8
I'm not as fortunet as you are... the clubz keep chaseing me even to the shelter of the pyramidz... I loose goo, because some of the enemy gruntz get smushed while stepping on the red pyramid and some die on the same spot... I'll have to try antill my luck changes  |
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Post by Gaby on Oct 18, 2004 18:32:07 GMT -8
Lady luck is not yet here for me altough I keep trying... the clubz chase me all the way... I tried to free the swordz on my way to the shelter to keep them busy... but it's no good... they are all after me... |
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Post by GooRoo on Oct 18, 2004 18:55:41 GMT -8
Have you done what I suggested, that is start with your Grunt one Tile diagonally northwest of the Black One-Time Switch that controls the Club Gruntz' Black Pyramidz, and click on the Tile immediately to the east of the Blue Toggle Switch on the eastern border of that area? And when your Grunt reaches that Tile (actually, as the Grunt is moving from the previous Tile to that Tile) clicking on the Green Toggle Switch in the southwest corner? When I do that, I always make it unmolested into the safety of the Green Pyramidz. Then I come back out when all of the enemy Gruntz stop moving ... either because they have turned into Goo Puddlez, or are out of sensing range of any other Grunt. SAVE and come out to restart the battlez between Gruntz if all (or all but one) of the original 10 Gruntz that have been vanquished have left individual Goo Puddlez. If more than two Gruntz cannot be accounted for by active Gruntz + Goo Puddlez, start over.
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Post by Gaby on Oct 18, 2004 19:04:20 GMT -8
Yes, I tried... but alas... my grunt stops all the time at the zap kola... and is being cought... therefore I tried the other way... no luck at all... |
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Post by WalkingBear on Oct 19, 2004 4:01:24 GMT -8
Quote:You should have eliminated those enemy Boomerang Gruntz before activating the SecretTeleporterTrigger ... with your own Boomerang Grunt.
Does that mean I send a Boomerang through the green warp, and kill the yellow boomerangz from the battle area? Not sure I understand what you mean here...sorry.
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Post by GooRoo on Oct 19, 2004 6:12:12 GMT -8
Quote:You should have eliminated those enemy Boomerang Gruntz before activating the SecretTeleporterTrigger ... with your own Boomerang Grunt. Does that mean I send a Boomerang through the green warp, and kill the yellow boomerangz from the battle area? Not sure I understand what you mean here...sorry. Close ... but no cigar. The Boomerang Grunt will go through a Red Warp, not a Green Warp. But don't be too hasty, using that bent piece of wood on every enemy Grunt within range ... you may need that enemy Grunt around to accomplish something for you later. |
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Post by Gaby on Oct 19, 2004 11:56:45 GMT -8
Well, lady luck smiled today  ... the rockz did all the dirty work for me with some encuragement here and there ... got 9 goo puddlez... now to the next part... |
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Post by Gaby on Oct 19, 2004 12:20:34 GMT -8
Ok now, I got through the green warp and eliminate the rockz... and now I'm back... what to do now? where to go ? |
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Post by Gaby on Oct 19, 2004 13:45:11 GMT -8
oops, apparently I forgot to take the shovel ......so I made another trip to take it....and dug out the ball the gunhat and the sponggun... now I try... I shot 4 enemt to the purple switchez .... I think I made a mistake I went through the red warp...aliminate most enemy gruntz...got the gravity bootz and then the shovel... too early ha? maybe .... I'll try something else? else |
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Post by Gaby on Oct 19, 2004 14:58:44 GMT -8
double oops, forgot all about GooRooz magic shovel... so ...from the start...I know the drill... got me 3 more gruntz... |
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Post by Gaby on Oct 19, 2004 20:09:29 GMT -8
It is all very confusing ... I got the enemy gruntz to the PS... faund the boomerangz red warp and killd all the boomerang enemyz... but after I went back and sent sponggun trough the blue warp and and got the shovelz... the spy glass the gruntletz and the sponggun I realaized I killd too many enemyz ... so after the boomerang killz all the bumerang enemyz steps on the BTS... get the coin and into the wap how is going through the time pyramidz... |
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Post by GooRoo on Oct 19, 2004 21:41:01 GMT -8
Did you turn one too many enemy Boomerang Gruntz into Goo? I did post that a solver should not be too hasty in creating Goo Puddlez, didn't I?
Okay, now for the Silver Pyramidz: the easy way to solve it is to step on the Silver Timer Switch and ... do nothing (but watch)! Or perhaps I should say ... observe. You can wear yourself out while raising your adrenaline level significantly by chasing the action fo the Silver Pyramidz. Or you could just go far enough (in a leisurely manner, even!) to arrive at the place where the Silver Pyramidz come to join you ... and then make a bee-line through the Silver Pyramidz to the Wormhole.
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Post by Gaby on Oct 19, 2004 21:59:32 GMT -8
I'm a fast learner... so... the shovelz went safe as a sponggun through the warp and back to the gathering area... I'll try now sending the grunt with the ball through the warp with gruntletz ... I found out the silver pyramidz timeing but I have no shovelz... so I think I wait to see what the gruntletz+ball grunt will achive... I think this CL must have a walkthrough... |
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Post by WalkingBear on Oct 20, 2004 3:21:07 GMT -8
Gaby, have you got any tips for shooting those purple gruntz onto the purple switchez? I can usually get 3....and what about that secret switch there? Is the red wormhole for the boomerang at the top of the yellow arrowz? Which yellow boomerang should NOT be killed? You are way ahead of me, I'll have to work harder to catch up! |
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Post by Gaby on Oct 20, 2004 3:26:52 GMT -8
help me pleeeese... gauntletz+ball got through the blue warp... gave the sword enemy the ball ... found the shovel and reveald the gruntletz... got out from that area and reveald another timebomb... now ... how do I get out of that area.... I'm also looking for another BTS to complete the bridg or/and a way to get gunhat and boomerang to the checkpoint... I have no gunhat he has got the shovel now... |
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Post by Gaby on Oct 20, 2004 3:49:59 GMT -8
WalkingBear, shoot 2 enemyz to the PS... swap placez with gunhat and shoot the boomerang... swap placez again go to the YTS and shoot 2 more enemyz to the PS... shoot the last one so that diagonaly from the chackpoint (make another trip through the green warp and back) you'll shoot him to the PS...send gunhat through the red warp that is at the top of the arrowz areait'll bring you to the gunhats checkpoint area ... kill all the enemyz that are in the lake not the boomerang that is in the spikez area... if you'll need more assistance I'll gadly give it to you if I can... |
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WOW ... if only I could do that...the clubz casse me all around while I step on the BOT button... I am apparently too slow...
I also avoided stepping on any Black One-Time Switchez, until everything was broken except the rock on the stairway leading to the central Rock-thrower. Then I released the Club Gruntz by starting from a point northwest of the BOTS controlling their Black Pyramidz, and clicking on a destination immediately to the east of the Blue Toggle Switch on the eastern border of the area. My Grunt thus avoided the emerging Club Gruntz, and I made a bee-line for the Green Toggle Switch in the southwest corner. I don't recall whether Gauntletz stepped on the BOTS releasing the Rock-thrower Gruntz, or the CLub Gruntz in hot pursuit of me activated it. No matter, the battle was joined, and some Grunt activated the BOTS lowering the Black Pyramidz enclosing the Sword Gruntz. (Back to paragraph one. 
Perhapz it was associated with some earlier Tile somehow, and the sound was just delayed until you reached the Yellow Toggle Switch. There should be no Secret to deal with there, is all I can remember.
Just think how proud you may feel when you complete the Level! Especially if you manage to complete it with a "PERFECT!" score!
... the rockz did all the dirty work for me with some encuragement here and there ... got 9 goo puddlez... now to the next part...