Secret Soduko 3

[BattlezM]

Designer:		BattlezM
Level Set:	3TT/TT	Area 3 "Trouble In The Tropicz" Level 12
Est. Completion:		1:45:00
Est. Solve:		3:00:00
Date Released:		September 16, 2007
Status:		Released
Notes:		Difficulty=Hard Size=Big (80X80) Density=Dense
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Survivorz:		12
Deathz:		1
Toolz:		and 18 more
Toyz:		0
Powerupz:	4	4 more
Coinz:		63 more ...
Secretz:	8	55
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This is the third installment of SecretSudoku, Brickz is the lead grunt. The team'z goal is to lower black pyramidz leading to the fort so that Brickz may move along laying brickz and reach the fort. It has very similar traitz of SecretSudoku1, in that gruntz will revisit certain areaz. The thing that makez this level hard is that it'z easy to do thingz in the wrong order or wrong way or wrong time. Be sure to suck up every goo puddle possible! Also try to convert any enemy you find into a suckable goo puddle (except onez needed), you never know when Gooberz might suddenly come along.

[BattlezM]

I have finished building the level and it'z off to Goo Roo for beta-testing (and probably a lot of it ).

[GooRoo]

I believe all of the problemz have been resolved on this one, and am about to start what is perhapz the final test. Since it has required close to three hourz on the clock, and 1 hour and forty-five minutez game timer time to complete, it will be late tonight before BattlezM can possibly approve of the changez I have made. But this one should be released before July 10^th.

[GruntzLevelDesigner]

Which one is harder: This or SecretSoduko1? (I'm asking this because I want to know which one I should work on first.)

[BattlezM]

IMO it'z defiantly SecretSudoku1. Most of the puzzlez in this one are visited only once, but some are revisited for goo.

[GruntzLevelDesigner]

I have another question. When you start the level, there is a spring grunt that starts at a different spot than everyone else. It looks like he is supposed to get some coins and get the "A", but I don't see how to. Are you supposed to try to get them when you start the level, and if you do, how?
Thanks!

Edit: Since I havn't gotten an answer yet, I have another question. In the second 3x3 square in the sudoku puzzle, the warp that the boomerang grunt takes leads to an area with just a secret switch. I know what's squares change when you step on it, but what use does it have? To me it looks like the shovel grunt is supposed to go there because of the holes, but how is the shovel grunt supposed to get there as it's not where the shovel grunt goes to. Please help!

[BattlezM]

Please hold until the download is fixed, you are not supposed to have that spring way over there.

[manu]

I just finished this CL and, as in the Statz Page image at the start of this thread, I miss 4 coins . I'm almost sure these coins are the 4 ones founded on the toggling bridge around the return red warp of Toob in the 6th square of the sudoku puzzle. I heard the sound and the "Oh yeah !", but the game didn't count the coins (I cheated to verify it ). Is there a way to get this coins

[oldone]

battlezm said:

Please hold until the download is fixed, you are not supposed to have that spring way over there.

I just downloaded this again and the springz still is in the area "way over there". Is he supposed to be somewhere else??

Also, in the first sudoku square, how is bootz supposed to get to his return warp? I know there is a secret that adds a few holez and moundz, but there is no way that bootz can go through there. He would have to step on the holez. I tried and can't make it. Looks like a dead end to me.

Manu, since you finished this, maybe you could write a walkthrough for it. I get so frustrated doing some of these levelz. Why do they have to be so perplexing?

[BattlezM]

If you can not do anything in one puzzle, work on another. Frequently gruntz will help each other across sub-puzzlez.
I sent Goo Roo a "for sure fixed" version. He hasn't uploaded it yet.

[rohit]

I have gauntletz and shovel behind red/green pyramids and brickz behind SP -all in same area. There is a RB toggling orange pyramids. The red/green pyramids should be toggling; i can see a RB which when released will hit a red and green switch. But where is the switch for yellow arrow so that RB can be released on the switches??

[BattlezM]

I think it is in a hole. That hole should be at the said RB'z location.

[rohit]

I did fill up lots of holes near the RB (incl one hidden under the trees) and also holes above the RW but there is no switch!!! Maybe i have wrong version and i downloaded it from here. Pls email the correct one to my email:
rohit at rohita dot net

[GooRoo]

rohit said:

I did fill up lots of holes near the RB (incl one hidden under the trees) and also holes above the RW but there is no switch!!! Maybe i have wrong version and i downloaded it from here. Pls email the correct one to my email:
rohit at rohita dot net

Perhapz you need to (re-)dig up those Holez (now Moundz) to see if you are using a "Magic Shovel" (that uncludez 'goodiez' with the dirt that is shoveled in) ... such as the missing Switch(ez). Sometimez a Switch may be cleverly(?) hidden under a large object, such as a Grunt Creation Pad or EyeCandy of some sort.

When in doubt, wave a Shovel (or Gauntletz) around areaz where you cannot clearly see the ground, to see if there is one of those cleverly(?) hidden diggable/breakable Tilez. And alwayz make sure that a Mound is empty (even if you just filled in a Hole to create that Mound!).

It has been a long time (for someone as advanced in age as I am) since I have played this CL, so I cannot offer any more advice than the above ... until I play it again to the point where you are having trouble. One thing I do recall about this one is that there is a Grunt Creation Pad fairly well hidden ... if you have a baked Grunt waiting to enter the game, perhapz that Grunt may be able to do something that is required for the solution of your current dilemma.

[rohit]

I have searched carefully and there are no magic shovels left nearby.
I can see a Giant Rock in north and the trigger could be under it but i cant reach it as it has holes and 2 RWs under it.

I figured it out...trigger is under Giant Rock. I made mistake of sending Gauntletz and Sjhovelz together..had to send them after some gap...

[rohit]

oldone said:

I just downloaded this again and the springz still is in the area "way over there". Is he supposed to be somewhere else??

Also, in the first sudoku square, how is bootz supposed to get to his return warp? I know there is a secret that adds a few holez and moundz, but there is no way that bootz can go through there. He would have to step on the holez. I tried and can't make it. Looks like a dead end to me.

Springz is in separate area..till another gruntz joins him much later.

When you press SS, gauntletz crosses over and breaks the rock so that Bootz can reach RW.

[rohit]

I finished the level but missed 2 secrets to the letters W and P. Pls tell me how to get to them?

[BattlezM]

IRC the W was reached by an arrow triggered by brickz. Somewhere...

[rohit]

Thanks and i found the RW to P also. Got all the secrets but missed 4coins.

[Sheroan]

help me please
I am in the last quadrant of the game, only it already lacks to lower me the black pyramid that this in the zone of the guante, but not like doing it, because the guante this and does not only have that lowers the green pyramid to him that it prevents to enter. Since one becomes?