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Post by GooRoo on Nov 10, 2005 7:23:44 GMT -8
It should be the same Grunt, carrying different Toolz.
Springz becomez Gauntletz, becomez TimeBombz, becomez Shovel. As 'TimeBombz' he releasez the Bare-handed Grunt who becomez Wingz, becomez SpongeGun. SpongeGun assistz Shovel into the pumpkin the second time. The final time one Grunt has become Wingz, and the other Springz (I believe I mis-stated that as TimeBombz).
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Post by WalkingBear on Nov 12, 2005 4:00:18 GMT -8
Ok, I am totally confused now....to many changes for this old brain....
I start with Springz....who jumpz to Gauntletz. Who breakz sugarcubez, killz purple gruntz...getz a yo-yo (I don't know what for... it's easy enough to kill the enemies without it..) then breakz all the sugar cubez , enters the BW to break all the cubez there, pickz up the timebomb to finish breaking brickz so the RO can pass through...and enterz the pumpkin to break cubez there, free the BH grunt...and then what? BH grunt becomez wingz, and shootz timebombz down through the arrowz and he goez where?
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Post by GooRoo on Nov 12, 2005 8:46:06 GMT -8
I guess it is about time to write (and publish) the walkthrough for this CL. (As soon as I finish the walkthrough I am working on currently ... for someone else's CL.) Because there is no need for TimeBombz Grunt to re-enter the Arrowz maze. Once he has used the TimeBombz to get through the maze to the pumpkin's 'stem', there is no longer any need for the TimeBombz. He freez the Bare-handed Grunt from the Purple Pyramidz by standing on the Purple (Multi-Grunt?) Switch and either Grunt can then raise all of the Bridge Stonez by stepping on the Blue Toggle Switchez (acquiring Wingz somewhere along the way). The non-Wingz Grunt goez to the Silver Timer Switch and through the Silver Pyramidz , picking up a Shovel along the way. Wingz getz the SpongeGun and 'helpz' Shovel into the Arrowz maze, where he standz on that original Purple (Multi-Grunt?) Switch so that SpongeGun may join him. Both go through the 'Darth Maul' maze to the bottom, where SpongeGun takez the Shovel cranked out of the GruntzMachine when a Megaphone is used.
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Post by WalkingBear on Nov 13, 2005 10:49:31 GMT -8
sorry to be such a pain, gooroo....my wingz can't fly to all the BTS'z.....he diez way before i get to the last one....guess I'll wait for the WT...
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Post by Gaby on Nov 13, 2005 10:56:38 GMT -8
walk him...fly only when necessary...
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Post by WalkingBear on Nov 14, 2005 9:44:46 GMT -8
Sorry, Gaby, guess I am missing something here...I have just released my BH from the purple pyramidz. GooRoo says I won't need my timebomb grunt anymore, so my BH getz wingz and flies to all the BTS'z....only he can't make it to every one before he diez... in fact, I can only make it to two of them....so I guess I am missing something...or doing something out of order....or flying out of order....where do I walk to? I am confused....I will wait for the WT.
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Post by Gaby on Nov 14, 2005 11:05:31 GMT -8
try walking on water diagonally...
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Post by GooRoo on Nov 14, 2005 13:22:18 GMT -8
Have your Bare-handed Grunt stand on the Landing Dock and click on one of the two Blue Toggle Switchez nearest you.
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Post by WalkingBear on Nov 15, 2005 2:16:37 GMT -8
And I will be able to hit all of the switchez? What about the two enemy spongegunz? Take them out?
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Post by GooRoo on Nov 15, 2005 6:26:11 GMT -8
And I will be able to hit all of the switchez? Not all the z ... but you will figure out when you need those Wingz. I tried to make it so that it was impossible to take them out (without cheating), but you can take one of them out ... and should!
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Post by WalkingBear on Nov 15, 2005 11:13:08 GMT -8
Well, silly old me...I didn't notice the SPARKLING water tiles.....so, I have figured out that I can indeed walk on water....and, it appears that I should not step on all the switchez, hmmm? And, not kill both spongegunz....hmmm? (Easy enough to do with the wingz)...so begz the question...which onez to step on and which onez to kill? Hmmm?
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Post by GooRoo on Nov 15, 2005 12:29:02 GMT -8
You need to step on all of the Switchez, but don't get (and use) the Wingz until you absolutely have to. Click on a Switch ... the Gruntz sayz "all righty-dighty"; repeat. The Gruntz sayz "I'm not going there!" you give him the Wingz. There is one enemy Grunt that I know you can 'sweep off his feet' ... the one I intended to go. I hope that you cannot (without cheating) do anything to the other one.
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Post by WalkingBear on Nov 16, 2005 3:02:34 GMT -8
Ok....that is what I did....basically....walked to every switch, BUT, you can use the wingz to get rid of the first enemy grunt...and, by FLYING to the last switch, you can eliminate the second. So my question for this post is....walk to all the switchez, eliminate the first grunt, FLY to the last switch, but DON'T kill the second? And, once I get to that last switch, where do I go? Fly back to the previous safe spot and walk back to the arrowz (pumpkin maze) to help get the timebomb grunt through the arrowz again? Or, I do have a pair of gauntletz in the resourcez, do I fly down to the silver pyramidz maze and go from there?
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Post by oldone on Nov 16, 2005 10:10:23 GMT -8
Well like GooRoo said, he tried to make it impossible to take both enemies out, and for good reason. Try only taking one out.
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Post by WalkingBear on Nov 17, 2005 4:31:21 GMT -8
I tried that...didn't kill the second one...BUT, it still leavez a few donuts submerged so that there is not a clear path for the RO to go over....and, there are a letter and a coin below the path to get as well...
So which grunt doesn't get killed? How to get that coin and letter? Can't walk to it yet! How do I get to the silver pyramid maze?.....Dilemnas!
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Post by GooRoo on Nov 17, 2005 6:20:34 GMT -8
If you killed the first one, and the bridge is incomplete, try leaving #1 alive, and do away with #2 instead.
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Post by WalkingBear on Nov 18, 2005 3:07:35 GMT -8
Oh, so tricky this level is............
Now, after all these months and years, you'd think I would be able to do something as simple as that, wouldn't you?
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Post by WalkingBear on Nov 20, 2005 4:38:52 GMT -8
Ok, so, I am across the bridge...I walked back and shot the timebombz down through the arrowz so he could be in the right place to step on the YTS to release the RO...and then I walked back over the bridge and flew down to the YTS and the megaphone, then IMMEDIATELY walked down through the silver pyramidz, got the shovel, and dug up the holez...walked back up through the SP to the top and got out of the way of the RO.....next?
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Post by GooRoo on Nov 20, 2005 9:10:13 GMT -8
That was a bit different! The TimeBombz Grunt should have been able to walk on his own to get a Coin, and step on the Switchez nearby whenever the time was right. (Or, as I played it, walk down to the Silver Timer Switch while Wingz made his way to the Yellow Toggle Switch and Red Toggle Switch area.) Nevertheless, all is not lost ... it is now just TimeBombz who takez the SpongeGun from the GruntzMachine and shootz Shovel over Arrowz so that he can stand on the Purple (Multi-Grunt?) Switch and have SpongeGun join him. Then it is on to do battle with Darth Maul!
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Post by WalkingBear on Nov 21, 2005 2:58:39 GMT -8
Is that the same PMGS that timebomb released the BH from? At the top of the pumpkin maze?
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