Grave Diggerz

[005601dj]

Designer:		BattlezM
Level Set:	8GS/GS	Area 8 "Gruntz In Space" Level 29
Est. Completion:		16:35
Est. Solve:		??:??
Date Released:		September 16, 2007
Status:		Released
Notes:		Difficulty=Medium Size=Medium (40X40) Density=Normal
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Statz Page image		manu - Forum's web host
Statz info.
Survivorz:		2
Deathz:		0
Toolz:		3
Toyz:		0
Powerupz:		2
Coinz:	5	+23 (hidden)
Secretz:		3
View the map!		1,091,121 bytez - Forum's web host

No kidding the first part is difficult!!! I have been trying different combinations for some time and can't seem to get anywhere. If anyone figures it out give the rest of us a guide for the switchez.
Thanks

[SwordGrunt]

Oh yeah, I also couldn't get past this part! It would be already challenging without cratez all over the place, but an invisible "keep the ball rolling" mini-puzzle is totally unfair!

[BattlezM]

He he he...

You guyz are looking at this the wrong way. Do you notice that those yellow switchez also toggle some arrowz with letterz on them? Perhapz if you set the arrowz with letterz in the right direction, you can complete the puzzle.

This isn't the hardest puzzle, it'z the most thinking!

[005601dj]

I did notice that and counted the spaces in both areas (which are not the same) trying to figure it out. Sorry to say even trying to go step by step one switch at a time I still got completely confused as to where the rolling ball should turn next and I gave up. I must say when I was looking at this with the letters and arrows, I thought it was incredibly clever and I have not seen anything like this before.

[twiggy]

I can't figure this one out either. I've tried different combinations of switches, but the ball keeps crashing. I can't figure out the significance of the different letters. Is there a pattern that one is supposed to find?

[BattlezM]

Highlight for solution :

Every letter on an arrow must be pointing to the same letter on another arrow.

[005601dj]

I just went back & took a look at this game, did anyone ever figure out how to get through this first part? It would be a shame if everyone gave up on it because of the part with the switchez and the game did not get played. Maybe a little help in the form of a guide through this part would be a good thing.

[005601dj]

What dose highlight for solution mean? Anyone playing this game or did everyone give up?

[SwordGrunt]

BattlezM colored the text as Green, which is nearly invisible here. If you 'select' the text of the message and a bit ahead, you'll see the solution.

[005601dj]

The 2 S in the first colum are controled by the same switch. If you leave switch or step on it one of the S will point the wrong way. Help

[BattlezM]

So long as an S pointz to another S. The S arrowz can point towardz any other S arrow, even one multiple tilez away. Same goes for all other letterz.

[005601dj]

I am still not getting this. I think I have all the letters pointing to the same letter ecept always 1 S (there are multiple ways the T's can point to each other). The first colum starting on left 5th S from top and last S (7th) are controled by same switch. #5 S points up away from #7 S & #7 S points to the right pointing to the S in the next colum. If you step on switch to make #5 point down to #7 S then #7 S will point to the left away from the S next to it.

[BattlezM]

If this is the last switch left, you can just press the release switch for either position and see what happenz.

[005601dj]

When I press the release switch in either position the ball hits the wall in the same place. Maybe I am off on the switchez somewhere else. I am to the point now that I am just irritated & flustrated and only stuborness is keeping me trying. I mentioned that the T's can all be pointing to another T in different ways, is there a specific way that the T's should be? I even tried maping out the lettered arrows & switchez to figure out which switch worked each lettered arrows, still not making it through. Maybe I am having a mental block on this and making it harder than it actually is.

[BattlezM]

Looking over the level with the covering removed I noticed that one of the arrowz was pointing the wrong way. Apparently I added it wrong. I had this level beta-tested too and it wasn't picked up.
Either way, the bottom-right switch is your problem.

[GooRoo]

The Download link in the original post in this thread will now give you the corrected version of this puzzle.

[twiggy]

I was able to get through that part and am making my way through the level. I did write down the directions of which way each letter's arrow was pointing, but don't know if BattlezM wants it posted here as a spoiler.

[twiggy]

Yeah, I got the PERFECT Thank you BattlezM for another interesting level. That opening sure took a lot of trial and error to figure out!

[manu]

admin said:

The Download link in the original post in this thread will now give you the corrected version of this puzzle.

I think two errors remain in this version :

• The two black pyramidz are down at the start of the level so, if you succeed in the first puzzle, you can't go further !
  
• The bottom left arrow (with a S on it) is pointing on the right at the beginning, and I think it should point to the left for the logic of the puzzle.

I made the changes in my file. Would you like me to send it to GooRoo ?

Edit : I just got the "PERFECT!" and sent a Statz Page image to GooRoo. I had to restart the level from the beginning when I was at the end because I missed one coin. I had a really hard time finding where it was before realizing that a TimeBomber should have break the final rocks, but he was killed by enemy gruntz earlier

[GooRoo]

I have uploaded the Statz Page image to the web host, and the link in the original post will now display Manu's result. If there is any problem remaining with the version available for download here at the time I am posting this, I think a corrected version should be sent to me by the original Designer, who presumably will verify that the puzzle is now as it should be.