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Post by Gamer on Feb 17, 2005 11:55:46 GMT -8
To get pass this scection, make it easy on yourself and don't opt for the tight timing! (I thought it couldn't be done using timing, but apparently it was done.)
First, stick the rolling ball so that it's rolling over the green switch Then, stick one grunt between the black switch and the red switch. Send another grunt to the black switch without moving the already positioned grunt out of the way! Right after that, send a grunt (at the right time) to the yellow arrow so it will step on the yellow switch (and let the ball loose)
NOTE: Due to a bug in the game engine, the grunt walks slightly faster than the ball, so if you let the grunt walk around a while, your timing will be messed up!
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Post by Gamer on Feb 17, 2005 11:58:24 GMT -8
(What should have happened by sending that second grunt to the black switch is you have a grunt triggering the red switch at a rate without you having to tell it to do so every time.)
You can now send the other grunt to the second yellow switch (in the corner) by cutting corners and managing where he walks.
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Post by Gaby on Feb 17, 2005 12:25:15 GMT -8
that's the "salta,salta,salta" method Gamer mentiond before... I did it slightly in another way...  ... take Gamers advice that's the easy way...  |
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Post by WalkingBear on Feb 18, 2005 15:41:09 GMT -8
I don't get it....could you please be a little more specific? I don't get what you mean about sending one grunt to the BOTS with another one out of the way? I already stepped on the BOTS and the green toggle switch...did I mess up? ![]() |
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Post by Gamer on Feb 18, 2005 17:12:07 GMT -8
I don't think it will matter if they are pressed, but I didn't try it that way (since it's more work)
You should have three gruntz. Put one on the tile directly below the one switch. Then put one close to the two-way arrows. Make sure the rolling ball is rolling over the green switch, and then send your remaining grunt underneath the left die, to the left of your other grunt. Click on the one switch with the grunt under the die selected. He will pace around at a speed slightly faster than the rolling ball, but, if timed right, for the first few seconds, it will be right at speed with the rolling ball. Then you don't have to worry about switching the red switch; your grunt that's pacing around will do it for you. Soon after you send the pacing grunt into motion, let the ball loose by having the third grunt (the one placed by the two-directional arrows) step on the arrows and onto the yellow switch. Bring him manually to the second yellow switch in the corner and the rock will be able to continue on its path.
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Post by Gaby on Feb 18, 2005 18:36:30 GMT -8
you'll see... it's a beauty... you'll be surprised...  ... don't forget... the GPz that's in the area to the right must be lowered to let the R8-B pass...  P.S: Gamer- you must put this tip in the 'tipz and trickz' topic and the ctrl+# too...  |
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Post by IdleAl on Feb 19, 2005 4:57:24 GMT -8
Sure wish I'd thought of that trick when I solved this level.  |
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Post by Gaby on Feb 19, 2005 7:02:27 GMT -8
me too...  ... with that trick timing isn't tight at all and you have to work with only one grunt ... |
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Post by WalkingBear on Feb 19, 2005 15:55:01 GMT -8
I did have to go back to a previous save. If you step on the BOTS beforehand, the grunt does not recognize it as a destination tile and headz directly for the hole. Got through that bit....and now two of my gruntz are stranded on the PMGS'z....the third one walkz down, but has no toolz to do anything with.....a shovel would be nice for those holez....or some springz maybe? Any cluez floating around out there in cyber Grunt Land?  |
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Post by WalkingBear on Feb 25, 2005 4:55:16 GMT -8
Well, I have tried to get the two invisibility powerupz to get by those swordz, but it doesn't last long enough to get across the bridge...did I miss something somehow? If I use the death powerup on the four barehanded gruntz, there are not enough crumble tilez to go get the straw and suck the goo and get back again.... Sure could use some  here! |
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Post by IdleAl on Feb 25, 2005 5:30:29 GMT -8
You need to choose your path to the 4 barehanded enemy grunts wisely. There is a way to turn them to goo, get the gooberstraw, suck up the goo and return without crossing paths with the swordz.
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Post by Gaby on Feb 25, 2005 7:28:24 GMT -8
Well, I have tried to get the two invisibility powerupz to get by those swordz, but it doesn't last long enough to get across the bridge...did I miss something somehow? I think they're just decoyz... they are good for nothing... there is a tile you can use to go from the upper room to the lower room... use the crumble tilez wisely... |
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Post by Gamer on Feb 25, 2005 13:00:03 GMT -8
I use powerups and toys (like in Jackson Hole) when coins wouldn't be as good. Personally I thought the spot in the toggle maze is deserving of a powerup instead of a coin. It's a similar value, you need both to get a perfect score.
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Post by Gaby on Feb 25, 2005 13:14:58 GMT -8
 ... you missunderstood me... I did not mean they should not to be collected... I meant that they serve nothing (except pointz) for the solution ... [img src=https://gooroosgruntz.info/emoticons/wave.gif[]
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Post by WalkingBear on Feb 27, 2005 5:15:42 GMT -8
I found a way to finish the level, but I missed both of the RW secretz and the coin which is in one of them...can someone please tell me where they are so I can get the PERFECT! ? I did not get into the top area with the big dice either...is that one of the secretz? |
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Post by Gaby on Feb 27, 2005 9:31:58 GMT -8
you've got to get to the area below the one where you released the rock... continue and you end in the area above the orange pyramidz... there is the secret and the coine too... |
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Post by WalkingBear on Feb 28, 2005 5:11:14 GMT -8
I am replaying now, from the beginning...... So that is one of the secretz....and it is in the area where I release the RR at the end?  Ok, where is the other one? |
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Post by Gamer on Feb 28, 2005 12:18:32 GMT -8
Both secrets are in the same spot, somewhere in the top left area. Usually a secret warp trigger is hidden in a dead end area or somewhere strange... In a related note, most of the things repeat in this level, but not everything...
The secret switch evidently isn't in plain view (and no mention of an unconventional secret switch in the level notes) so you must have to change the tile state of one of the tiles (by busting it open or digging it up). It's not in the 4 holes you can fill up, so it must be under a rock.
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Post by Gaby on Feb 28, 2005 16:55:36 GMT -8
it's under the unreached dice... the only way to activate it is to get there and break it... [img src=https://gooroosgruntz.info/emoticons/wave.gif[]
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Post by oldone on Mar 1, 2005 20:01:42 GMT -8
Man, this one needs a walkthrough. I had trouble from the very beginning. The orange pyramids tooks me hours to figure out and then I had a terrible time getting through the section with the three converted gruntz. ( ![]() another couple of hours there). I finally saw the ending so I cheated my way through.  I couldn't figure out the secret switch though. It didn't seem to make much sense,  and I missed the red warp.  Get me outta here!  Hard, hard, hard, but maybe it's just me.  |
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... with that trick timing isn't tight at all and you have to work with only one grunt ...
here! 
I couldn't figure out the secret switch though. It didn't seem to make much sense, 
and I missed the red warp. 