The Cross 5

[GooRoo]

kat said:

well i redid the level....thinking i had inadvertently triggered the warp........still have not found the illusive RW only arrows left are ones that will prevent shovelz from returning to the MPS.......wahhhhh.......i WANT those 3 coins!...lol the left hand shovelz is the one to enter the RW...IF i ever find it...right?

That is, the left hand of someone on the cross ... the eastern edge of the map. Remember, the Secret spot is a place where one would normally not want to go ... as in a place from which there (appears that there) is no return. When one goes looking for such placez, one normally will SAVE before stepping out ... in faith that the designer has provided a way back.

[kat]

ahhh yes....thank you GooRoo.....since that one is ALSO a shovelz.......

[WalkingBear]

My problem is that I can get as far as this: (The shovelz to the east has gone through the RW and is back on his PMGS. The first gauntletz is on HIS PMGS. The second shovelz, the bootz and spongegun are on the left side. The second gauntletz, springz and bricklayer are now in the middle on the right hand side, just below the spike field....)

IF I send my springz up through the spikez to raise the bridge, and then send bricklayer and gauntletz to stop the RR, there is no way for me to get to the top by the fort to break the brickz there...so, before I do anything else, what happenz next? Where do the gruntz on the left and right sidez go next? I know that shovelz goez through the spikez field and endz up in the first "I"...but there is still the "N", "R", and the second "I".....

I tried sending gauntletz to the "R"...but didn't do that properly as there was still a hole to fill and one to dig(?)

That's why I am waiting for the WT....there is no way to be notified of replies to posts now...and I forget to check the website, so I forget that there might be an answer....it takez too long! Wah!

[Gaby]

you need only one grunt at the 'R' .... so... send the bricklayer... after he's done his missionz he goes to the eastern 'I'... gauntletz#2 got a lot to do before he's sent to the 'N'... send spongegun to wait near the southern BW ... send the springz through the same BW the bricklayer went through to stand on the MGPS... as soon as all the MGPS but one are occupied and you got the grunt with the warpstone near the PPz... send spongegunz through the BW...

[WalkingBear]

Ok, I can do that...but how do I send a gauntletz to the "N".....? If I send a bricklayer to stop the RR in the "R", then I need a gauntletz to break the dice and the brick there...to get access to the second pair of gauntletz?

Shovelz still goez through the spikez field and goez through the BW there to the first "I", right?

[WalkingBear]

Sometimez you have to see it on paper to see the solution....I got a PERFECT! in 31:16~!

[Gaby]

well... congratulationz... I'm glad you made it to the end...

[oldone]

Hooray WalkingBear! I knew you could do it.

[kat]

well it's been a few days since i have gotten the computer....Hubby has had a long weekend.....BUT i got my perfect! thanks to all..... andfinding the RW reminded me of "Oh! ye of little faith...."

sometimes one forgets where the boxwalls are, makes it more difficult to think outside of it

[Gaby]

it's because the box wallz are transparent and the difficulty makes it more challenging....

[nyuszikam]

I did it but forget one secret!
I know it is for the big arrow and I know that is the first showel in the arrow maze that have to find it but wherre?!
I try ,and try and try and don't find it! Bouuuuh
Please someone can tell me what I have to do and where I have to go!?

[oldone]

IIRC (and I may not) shovelz has to step on an arrow (in his arrow maze) that will take him somewhere that he doesn't really want to go, but Surprise! it turns out OK.

[frikzoogoo]

Like, that level was awesum! I got so irritated after having to redo it about 20 times (not exagerating!) because its so easy to make a mistake and only ONE way to get it all right...

But it all makes it more rewarding wen you finnish. Thanx Guru.

[Sheroan]

!!!!!!!!!!!!! PERFECT !!!!!!!!!!!!! THANKZ GOO ROO

[GooRoo]

I just realized that I could have made this Custom Level with just one Question Mark Switch , and one Red Warp ... and thus be easily playable in 'Easy' mode (as Monolith intended the puzzlez should be). (I found that this CL had an incomplete walk-through while checking index linkz ... and side-tracked myself to finish it.)

Currently, the RW leadz to three Coinz as well as a Warp letter (which are all duplicated ), so to fully legitimize it, I would have to move the Coinz and remove seven of the eight Warp letterz.

One of the duplicated Warp letterz is the only thing in the INRI area, so would become one of the three Coinz. Each Arrowz mini-puzzle containz a Warp letter, but no Coin, so that takez care of the Coinz and three of the Warp letterz. I could eliminate the Warp letterz that are in 'N' and 'R', since there are other worthy prizez in those areaz, and the one where there are three Kegz of Zap Cola. Problem solved! This would become one of my (very) few completely legitimate Gruntz CLz.

Would anyone like a re-release?

P.S. I just completed testing the fully compliant version of this CL ... to a "PERFECT!".