New rating system

[ILoveGruntz]

I am not posting this because i think there is anything wrong with the old rating system. From Very Easy to Frustrating, gives a good impression to what you may expect, or does it?

Zone1 and Karaoke Bar are my two hardest CL'z, they are both rated frustrating, but apart from that they are very different - Karaoke Bar focuses on tight timing, fancy footwork and quick reactions. Zone1 is more based on actual puzzling, with puzzlez that apply to thinking rather than clicking.
Still the rating is the same, and who can disagree? they are both in that league of difficulty. Other CL'z within the different categories also have the same problems.

I propose that the rating system also includes the type of puzzle - is it mostly timed, puzzle, strategy or hide and seek (these are the categories that I could come up with)

You can make many rating systems on that, and give a picture of what a CL or even a specific sub puzzle is like.
How such a system will work is more of a challenge. It should be easy for designers to estimate, but also easy to read.

A possibility is to give all CL'z 10 points to distribute among the categories:
EX: puzzle - 2, strategy - 4, timed - 3, hide and seek - 1, total: hard.

Another possibility is to simply say what the main type of puzzle is. Is it puzzle, timed, timed-strategy or balanced?

A third possibility - well, go think of one.


Doing this will hopefully make it easier for gruntzerz to find CL'z that they will enjoy.

Please feel free to comment and discuss.

[Pinkgoo]

I was just about to post this exact same idea.

The new rating system could give puzzlez up to 6 points in 4 categoriez; Dexterity, Intelligence, Knowledge, and Patience.

Knowledge would require you to know the aspectz and logicz about Gruntz, while Intelligence will have you using your brains to figure out a puzzle. Patience would have you walking across the map, or waiting for a rolling ball to hit a switch. Dexterity would be navigating a rolling ball maze, or running across a field of lava geyserz.

The points would be in low-easy high-hard format, like this.

1- Very Easy(Zero or no dexterity, little intelligence, small knowledge, no patience)
2- Easy(Small dexterity, some intelligence, some knowledge, a little patience)
3- Medium(Normal dexterity, medium intelligence, a little more knowledge than easy, some patience)
4- Hard (Difficult dexterity, lots of intelligence, high knowledge, lots of patience)
5- Very Hard(Lots of dexterity, a little more intelligence than hard, lots of knowledge, high patience)
6- Frustrating(Insane dexterity, large intelligence, insane knowledge, unhuman patience)

This way, if a gruntzer is looking for a normally puzzling level, he'd look for a level with high knowledge and intelligence, but low(er) dexterity and patience. If he would be looking for a fast-paced level, he'd look for high dexterity, but low(er) patience, intelligence, and knowledge.

This could put an end to all the "easy, but some hard partz" levelz, by providing a system in which you can say what is easy and what is hard.

[ILoveGruntz]

The way I was thinking was:

Puzzle (what am I supposed to do)
Strategy (how am I supposed to do it)
Timing (when am I supposed to do it)
Hide and Seek (Where is the thing to do it (mostly secrets))

But a patience stat would be nice too (the others are nearly the same, with different names)

[SwordGrunt]

I agree with ILoveGruntz in Puzzle, Strategy, Timing and Hide & Seek.


Patience would be determinated by the Est. Solve/Completion of the Puzzle already.

[BattlezM]

It'd very easy to determine how to implement this. All we need is a double tag in the difficulty.

e.g.-

Difficulty

Hard Puzzle

Easy Timing

[alexandgruntz]

pinkgoo said:

The new rating system could give puzzlez up to 6 points in 4 categoriez; Dexterity, Intelligence, Knowledge, and Patience.

Knowledge would require you to know the aspectz and logicz about Gruntz...

And bugs.

[Gaby]

IMHO the current rating is for the average solver... most of the CLz contain puzzlez of all kind ... the difficulty of a game is in the solverz abilityz... ... maybe there could be a rating pull in every original post for the solverz to rate a game...