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Post by TimeBomberz,ching13 on Jun 3, 2005 20:49:14 GMT -8
well,I'm sadly to say " Goodbye,Gruntz! because my brother don't let me install any game. When I ask why,he always say"every Game CD may got virus" I'm very sad often....
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Post by Bea on Jun 9, 2005 2:04:23 GMT -8
Maybe you should tell him to check the disk for viruses and then let you install the game.
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Post by FriedGruntzaholic on Jun 9, 2005 10:40:20 GMT -8
Actually, I think your brother is confusing viruses with spy-ware. Spy-ware is not the same thing as a computer virus. Spy-ware is used by many different parties to track your movements on the Web for various reasons. Spy-ware, especially if you have an abundance of it, can slow your computer down, but it won't (at least most of it won't) harm your computer. A virus, OTOH, can be used to actually take control of your computer, can delete critical files from your computer, or actually damage your computer making it unusable. While theoretically possible, I have never heard of computer games or any other program being the source of computer viruses, especially games(programs) that come from reliable sources, i.e. if you have Gruntz on the CD that was sold by Monolith Productions, then the chances of a virus being on that disk are virtually nil. On the other hand, virtually every "aftermarket" program (those not produced by Microsoft if you use the Windows operating system), including Gruntz have, to some degree, spy-ware on the disk. Even Microsoft probably puts some spy-ware on some of their program disks (like games, for instance) for their own purposes. While some spy-ware may be on CD-ROM's, most spy-ware comes from surfing the Net. The point is, no matter what you do, computer-wise, you're going to get some degree of spy-ware. It's like death and taxes--it's a fact of life and unavoidable. So if your brother wants to avoid getting spy-ware, then he needs to format his hard drive, re-install Windows, do not install any programs, and do not connect to the Internet--IOW, a heavy, very clunky, very expensive paperweight. However, there are effective ways to deal with spy-ware and allow your computer to remain usable. First, your brother probably needs to upgrade the security settings for his Web browser so as to accept fewer "cookies". A lot of spy-ware is nothing more than tracking cookies. Upgrading his security settings can help keep the number of cookies down. Second, if your brother is currently using IE as his default (or only) Web browser, then he should consider using Mozilla Firefox instead. Firefox is not as susceptible (at least for the time being) to spy-ware as IE. Third, there are a number of free programs that he can download to look for and remove spy-ware. And like backing up files, if done at least once a week both your brother and his computer will be much happier! Shoot! He may even be so happy that he will let you reinstall Gruntz!
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Post by TimeBomberz,ching13 on Jun 9, 2005 19:34:45 GMT -8
Does that mean I need to format the computer?
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Post by GooRoo on Jun 10, 2005 7:37:27 GMT -8
Does that mean I need to format the computer? No! Definitely not! Re-installing Gruntz on a new(er) computer means you put the CD-ROM in the drive, and then select the 'install' option. Formatting a drive is something that one only does when there is a catastrophic problem of some kind ... like a virus that Norton or McAfee anti-virus programs are unable to remove ... or a hard drive head crash.
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Post by FriedGruntzaholic on Jun 10, 2005 20:03:46 GMT -8
Does that mean I need to format the computer? I second that definite NO!. Definitely not! What you or your brother needs to do is download one or more spyware detection programs and run them on a regular to keep your computer free of spyware.
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Post by TimeBomberz,ching13 on Jun 11, 2005 6:27:46 GMT -8
that was not easy,My computer Get Spyware Everyday! And the 2nd reason I cannot install gruntz is my brother use this computer to do project. He always don't let me install because he scare(d) the gruntz game will infect his project file or the gruntz game file size was too big.......
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Post by GooRoo on Jun 11, 2005 11:30:07 GMT -8
I have approximately 291MB dedicated to Gruntz, including the Gruntz Level Editor and several copies of my SAVE areas. The SAVE areas may be the largest items in storage, some running to almost 2MB. I also have both the version 1.00 REZ file and the version 1.01 REZ file ... about 77MB each. So with just one REZ file, the storage is about 214MB including the GLE.
I hope this helps you in bargaining with your brother for installing Gruntz on his computer.
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Post by kat on Jun 11, 2005 20:51:37 GMT -8
there are many different anti-spyware ( remmoval programs) that can be down-loaded for frre.....we , here, use ad-aware........ it has done a world of good for us.......a game is NOT the type of program to worry about....cruising for porn sites 9 for example.... ARE)
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Post by TimeBomberz,ching13 on Jun 14, 2005 2:13:54 GMT -8
Sorry for late reply because my computer just formatted. About Anti spyware....Hmmm..... Those downloaded anti-spyware program just can scan but cannot Remove those SpyWare!! And one thing I am worry about:Could some virus or spy ware* go into the gruntz disc when I playing Gruntz? *That on my computer!
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Post by GooRoo on Jun 14, 2005 6:14:02 GMT -8
Sorry for late reply because my computer just formatted. About Anti spyware....Hmmm..... Those downloaded anti-spyware program just can scan but cannot Remove those SpyWare!! And one thing I am worry about:Could some virus or spy ware* go into the gruntz disc when I playing Gruntz? *That on my computer! The Gruntz CD-ROM is truly "Read Only Memory" (what ROM stands for) ... it is not possible to write to the disc. So you need not worry about the disc being modified with any sort of virus.
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Post by TimeBomberz,ching13 on Jun 16, 2005 1:51:34 GMT -8
So that's mean the chance of virus gone into the Gruntz CD is 100%? And little I want Ask: Can I fully install the gruntz and play it without CD? I'm hate my brother because sometimes he will hide the disc to avoid me play.....
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Post by GooRoo on Jun 16, 2005 6:50:37 GMT -8
So that's mean the chance of virus gone into the Gruntz CD is 100%? No, the chance of a virus infecting the Gruntz CD-ROM is more like 0% ... almost impossible. (Nothing is impossible, I suppose, if someone is willing to throw wnough time (and money) into it.) The RealArcade version of Gruntz (downloadable version 1.10) may be played without a CD-ROM. I do not have the knowledge to be able to play my CD-ROM version (1.01) without the CD-ROM in the drive when I start the game. I'm sure that someone knows how to do it ... but I don't. Make a back-up copy of the CD-ROM, and keep the back-up where you always know where to find it ... but your brother doesn't know where it is.
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Post by TimeBomberzChing13 on Jun 16, 2005 23:53:51 GMT -8
That's "Crack Disc" right? If I cracked the disc,will the cracked disc will work properly?
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Post by GooRoo on Jun 17, 2005 9:01:12 GMT -8
That's "Crack Disc" right? No, that is making a legitmate back-up copy of the game, using a standard (CD-ROM) copy program, such as Roxio. I have my original CD-ROM stored away, and always play from the back-up copy I made. If anything ever happened to the one I use daily, I go back and make another copy from the original. Replace 'cracked' with 'copied', and I can say truthfully that it works just fine. You still must have the Gruntz (back-up) CD-ROM in the drive in order to start the game. Once the game has been started, you may remove the CD-ROM from the drive, and put it away for safe-keeping.
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Post by TimeBomberz,ching13 on Jun 17, 2005 21:15:56 GMT -8
ok,problem solved. I have installed gruntz today!! And I forgot where to download the GLE(gruntzLevelEditor) Can show URL?
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Post by Gruntzola on Sept 4, 2005 20:51:48 GMT -8
there are a number of free programs that he can download to look for and remove spy-ware. Anti-Spy is a good program for Spy-Ware.thats what i use.i suggest that if you download it that you run it every time after you have been surfing the Internet.
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Post by manu on Oct 6, 2005 12:06:00 GMT -8
If someone is interested, I play Gruntz "almost" without CD : I made an image of my CD with a program called Alcohol 120%, and I play with this image in a virtual CD reader. It works !
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Post by GooRoo on Oct 6, 2005 13:08:17 GMT -8
If someone is interested, I play Gruntz "almost" without CD : I made an image of my CD with a program called Alcohol 120% Where can one obtain "Alcohol 120%" (freeware, shareware, commercial)? What program do you use as a virtual CD reader?
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Post by manu on Oct 6, 2005 13:14:04 GMT -8
you can find alcohol 120% at www.alcohol-soft.com/it's also a virtual CD reader. It's the only one i found that makes undetectable virtual CD reader
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